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Perhaps perfect granularity of social networks can be achieved if little "towns" are aggregated on top of small Unix servers or VPS.

A 1GHz 1GB compute unit can probably handle 1000 people, with IRC level chatting and light browsing a text protocol like Gemini.

If each "town" has a maximum population before it becomes a grind and people want to move out there's a natural feedback mechanism.

Am elected local council can take care of some (sysadmin) things and vote on new services and boundary (firewall rules).

If people identify with an online location, instead of an amorphous brand maybe they'll take pride in the upkeep and so on.

It's an interesting metaphor/model, and the Tilde project certainly seems to have proved it can work. I wonder what wisdom the inhabitants could give to other federated social projects?

IgorPartola
The OG version of this idea is of course the Super Dimensional Fortress: http://sdf.org/
8bitsrule
"I think web apps have their place in the world of commerce but that people should not feel ashamed if they don't want to combine megabytes of javascript and css to their framework-powered dynamic blog just to put their thoughts online. People shouldn't also be forced to use corporate-mediated, surveillance-based platforms like Twitter and Facebook just to put some ideas up for others to see." [https://brutalistwebsites.com/tilde.town/]

Been a long wait.

bovermyer
This is my page on Tilde.town: https://tilde.town/~sithlord/

It's a hand-written, kind of ugly test bed for random things. I have a random startup generator. It's stupid.

I love this community.

hieloz
It is very convenient. Similar tilde sites https://tilde.club/, more details can be found in tildeverse.org https://tildeverse.org/
vnorilo
The procedure for credential reset sounds a little concerning:

> are you a town resident that lost their ssh key? try this: using the email address with which you registered, send an email to [email protected] put "new public key" in the subject. include the new public key in the body of the email

Hopefully they will at least reply to confirm the person can actually read the email instead of just replacing pubkeys from any forged from-address.

whartung
I've not seen this discussed anywhere, and it's a bit of an under documented facet nowadays.

But, how does one go about securing a "tilde town".

That is, when you're letting random strangers have access to your machine with a fully operating shell, all of the Unix tool suite, and even programming languages, what's the threat level like?

Most security today is keeping people off the server in the first place, but here we're holding the door open for them.

Back in the day, I had a Netcom dial up shell account. So, I assume there's some way to secure a system where folks log in to a random machine and have their home directory NFS mounted. In the old days, there was NIS, but that's right out from what I can read. Replaced with LDAP I reckon.

Anyway, I appreciate that many of these communities are "Friendly", with several "don't do that" clauses in their guidelines, but that doesn't mean there's not room for stuff to be better secured.

Any write ups on this?

Taylor_OD
These things are always seem really cool but I feel like I don't know how to use them. Anyone have a use case they can share? Like what do you do on this site? How does it provide you with some type of value/or compel you to spend time on?
samatman
This brings back fond memories, grex was my first shell and a large influence on everything which followed http://www.cyberspace.org/grex.xhtml

Thirty years old this year, my goodness. Wild that an online space I was using 'talk' on when Hackers was in theaters is still around and kicking.

lrvick
You might also check out #!, a similar community running for over 20 years.

https://hashbang.sh

kuu
I wonder what kind of things are interesting to do on a server under ssh. Write files? have websites? Ascii art? It's a bit hard to me to grasp what is the "fun" in this project.
imdsm
Interesting, the SSH join form doesn't ask for an email, so they have no way of getting back to me with their answer.
LanternLight83
I was just looking around the other day, and can't reccomend enougj to do so yourself-- several user's pages are gems of character, one in particular has great nostalgia links like textfiles.com, and the site really captures small-web vibes.
GekkePrutser
Tilde.town is pretty great. Nice community and handy as a reserve ssh host.

Be careful though with stuff like port forwarding on a shared computer because forwarded ports are accessible to all users on the same machine.

mmastrac
I miss this small-community feel from the early internet days. Social media really blew up the togetherness you feel from being around a finite number of people.
r3dk1ng
Commodore63
Ah, shell accounts! Such nostalgia. I ran an Eggdrop bot on one for years. Great way to dip my toes into Linux-land.
lloydatkinson
It’s funny none of the links work except for the donate one. What’s the story there?
Bessie69
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https://tilde.town/wiki/conduct.html

The aesthetic is late 90s, but the attitude towards censorship is squarely late 2010s. Neocities is better; much less pozzed.