neilv
The tomshardware.com article says:

> The proprietary software to be included takes the form of Binary Large Objects, or BLOBs. In the language of free software, this means proprietary device drivers distributed without their source code, as pure binary.

But, in https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003 , I see no mention of closed drivers (i.e., code that runs on the Debian host machine) -- only of closed firmware (i.e., code that run on the component device itself).

(Of course, though closed firmware can seem reasonable right now, it can get more complicated over time, such as by encouraging complexity to be in closed device firmware that otherwise could've been in open kernel/userland in the host. And encouraging closed firmware over open firmware. But, for now, closed firmware seems not nearly as bad for libre/open software as closed drivers and other closed software on the host. And I'll admit that I've recently specified a company standard workstation built upon Debian Stable with closed firmware blobs, pragmatically, because we needed WiFi with popular off-the-shelf laptops.)

vertis
As much as Debian's prior policy is laudable it's caused it to have one hand tied behind it's back for the last 20+ years. The result has been distros existing that wouldn't exist otherwise. It turns out as a user I do need those things to work regardless of the manufacturers closed source drivers/firmware, and I want it to JustWork™.

And yes, I know it was already available, but the default installation UX matters a lot.

choffee
jgaa
I don't think allowing "binary blobs" by default is a good idea. Allowing binaries built from "non-free" but publicly available source code is less of a problem, at least to me.
guilhas
Big fail for Debian to enable them by default. They could have kept the questions as before "We found this hardware that needs non-free, do you want to use it?" Otherwise this is catering for the new security chips like Microsoft Pluton or something...

It is sad that they prefer to go for easy instead of keep putting pressure for companies to improve their hardware

I will put a reminder to check Debian popularity in a year's time. My bet is it will go down, most desktop people used Debian for the schizophrenic thin line they toed with Freedom Software. Otherwise any other distribution is more up to date and usable for a modern desktop/laptop, this small change will do no difference

Thaxll
I remember 15 years ago having to plug a USB stick with network driver on it after installing Debian so the server would connect to the network in the datacenter...
BiteCode_dev
Would debian had done that 15 years ago, Ubuntu would probably not have existed.
raxxorraxor
I think some compromises might be necessary but I think the insistence on open source drivers is otherwise pretty important. Yes, mobil OS are successful, but they still suck. The hardware and software situation restricts users massively. I wouldn't ever want that for a desktop computer.
passthejoe
This makes it easier to get started with Debian.

If the project, or motivated users want to detail exactly how to run Debian without nonfree firmware, that would be great.

And just as the nonfree installer was available but kept slightly hidden (even though it's difficult to install on just about any laptop without it), I'm sure there will be Debian Developers motivated to continue providing a fully free installer for those who want it.

LordLotherak
So, the only person in the world this will piss off, is Richard Stallman. Got it.
igtztorrero
Great news ! That's the only problem with Debian, THANKS !!!
yieldcrv
Oh, finally
kaushikc
They have been trying to get rid of Stallman last year.

https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/19/debian_stallman_vote/

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