diob
The Japanese learning space feels so crowded. Most are marketed towards beginners, which makes sense when you see statistics (most folks give up).

The top tier tools I recommend anyone are Wanikani and Bunpro.

Beyond that, reading!

I tried a site dedicated to it, but realized that I'm too much of a picky reader to do anything but read things I find interesting.

So I read japanese and english books side by side now.

I wish there was a better way, but tools crafted for intermediate folks just don't have a market given the small subset who gets there.

dayjaby
Huge shoutout to jpdb.io, which is imho second to none as they have flashcard sets for 5600 different books/animes/mangas/novels etc.

That's literally the best way to learn to read a language: reading actual Japanese written by a Japanese. No artificial workbook sentences. Actual context that surrounds your sentences. And you only have to deal with unknown vocabulary, where jpdb steps in.

jwrallie
Spotted some typo (Nihnogo), so you might want to double check your spelling.

I'm not sure if it is a personal thing, but I would like to have an idea of your pricing before trying your app, and it was not clear from the web page.

This one might be subjective, but I've lived in Japan a couple of years and it is quite rare to hear somebody saying 見ましょう in the context of your example. I get the point is to teach the grammar, but if you claim your app lead people to fluency, there might be better examples to show up in your screenshots. Maybe I'm not the target customer, but I get the feeling I'll be learning more for passing the jlpt tests and less for the real world.

anigbrowl
Looks great and I am your target customer prior language experience but very out of practice and wanting to go from adequacy to fluency), but why phone-only? I was quite disappointed as I have a Mac but don't own an iPhone, and while I'd be willing to pay for this I don't want to buy a new device just to try it out. Another reason is that for study I actually like to sit at a desk and make notes with a pencil on paper.
gimmeTheJalup
Most comments here look at this as "yet another SRS/flashcard app" and with all the usual Japanese learning app traits.

  - The usual read, flip, recall, choose if you got the card right.
  - The usual local Japanese voice records of the sentences to shadow to.
  - The usual i+1 decks, where you learn 1 new word mixed with a sentence of words you've already learnt in previous cards.
  - The usual teaches you your first 1000 words/grammar with English translations.
  - The unusual common twitter/conversational/colloquial slang words taught early.
  - The unusual those same first thousand words "coincidentally" allowing the first step to using monolingual Japanese-Japanese dictionaries.
  - The unusual next 1000 words * 6 decks with no English, just pure Japanese that you transitioned to from only knowing the first 1000 Japanese -> English translated words.
It is a lot more amazing than most people realize from just a headline or a quick glance at the home page!

My one dopamine-inducing memory using this was against a person who has been learning Japanese for about a year with a tutor and Japanese friends vs me who has only been using the app for about a month now. We were presented with a tweet and he was confused because of a few slang terms in there, I could make out the tweet naturally as if I was reading English, although with the reading speed of a 6 year old. Granted the tweet was fairly simple with basic words just expressing the thoughts of the user. I definitely would be outmatched with a tweet/conversation with more advanced words. But at that moment, I knew I had him beat with most casual simple colloquial sentences that I don't have to internally translate back to English in my head. This is not to say who's better than who, he was clearly better in almost every way, but he was learning it textbook style. I went with the path of wanting to read the internet too, and textbook language just are like valid vibes, but lowkey, no cap, fit the internet fr fr.

trophycase
If you are trying to learn Japanese I highly recommend the Youtube Channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@organicjapanesewithcuredol49

It explains the actual structure of the language in a way I've not seen anywhere else. The creator passed away last year but the content is still incredible and useful.

toxik
This is one of those cases where the hyphenation really matters.

A Japanese learning app would be an app in or by Japanese for learning things.

A Japanese-learning app would be an app for learning Japanese.

valenterry
What I'd like to have is an app that allows me to easily select specific vocab that I want to learn (with flashcards).

Essentially, I would pick "cooking" and get a list of vocabulary, sorted by usage/importance that contains all the words that I need for "cooking" such as tools, ingredients, techniques and so on.

Or the same for traveling, hiking, cycling, ordering in a restaurant, buying a house, ...

That would be super useful.

sirmarksalot
This looks interesting to me, but I've been looking for a language learning app that goes beyond flash cards and SRS as its core teaching concept. SRS is great for learning individual vocabulary in a vacuum, but kind of falls apart when you need to teach bigger concepts like number systems, grammatical theory, or conjugation rules. If you've already been taught the rules, then an SRS app like Wanikani can be a really great supplement to that, but it's not going to serve as a full learning experience.

This is where I find Duolingo and its imitators really frustrating, and I've been looking for a higher-effort product that actually uses subject-appropriate teaching strategies, and not treating SRS as a silver bullet.

The "puzzle" feature here looks interesting, so I'd like to see how integrated it is with the concepts, vs. being another view onto "word <-> translation" and SRS.

_rm
This is great. I'm not going to recommend porting to web (or android) because it's too obvious :). Maybe buy out his existing other assets too?

But if you aligned it with the JLPT I would subscribe. JLPT is the official gauge of progress and is a great motivator.

mkenny
Great work! I just downloaded the app and was testing it out. I like the way the onboarding is down with a gentle suggestion of what to do first without locking the user out of parts of the app. I believe users should be able to explore as much as they want to decide if something is beyond their current comprehension.

One thing, when learning some of the hiragana, the sensitivity seems to be set pretty high on the precision of handwriting to get accepted. I must have tried え 10 times before just swiping down to get out of it because it would not accept the second stroke. I didn't have trouble with the others leading up to it though.

frellus
Wow, I really like this app. The way you've done this, it's extremely visually appealing, it's well designed and from the start I felt productive in learning where I'm weakest with my Japanese writing.

Well done!!

kasool
Hi, I’ve been using the app for a few days and I’m really enjoying it! Until recently I was using WaniKani, which I still enjoy, but I’ve been intimidated on how to start learning real grammar and conversation. Would enjoy a web or Mac version as some others may have pointed out.
raylad
I think a lot of people don't get past the "learn all the characters first" barrier.

What would really be useful to them (and me) is an app focused on how people really talk, that teaches actually commonly used phrases as well as grammar and vocabulary.

Apps focused on reading often produce people who can read but can't have a conversation. This is one of the main criticisms of the way English is taught in Japan by the way.

cehrlich
This looks great, and I remember seeing Jalup a few years ago. I'm alright at the language now (N1 a year ago, 50+ books read, etc) and so deep into Anki at this point that I doubt I'll ever transition away, but I could see recommending this to someone who wants an easier solution.
entropicgravity
In learning a new language job 1 is get pronunciation correct. For adults this be very tricky unless you're a muscian or you listen to a lot of movies in the target language.

Job two is get strong hearing.

Grammar is last.

Language is a sport, you have to play with an opponent (or friend)

ngcc_hk
Fan boys aside.

I use another app called learn Japanese !! (Plus the easy Japanese news which is not related). That seems to be similar superficially. I did pay for that to get the additional feature. (and forget how I pay it. Does not seem to be subscription based.)

kinbiko
Your timing could not be better. Just this morning I was thinking how I'm set on the kanji front (with Anki) but I could really use a system for learning more vocab and grammar at an advanced level.

Then this came along. Excited to have a go!

revskill
I don't see the Reading/Pronounciation part. Knowing how to pronouce correctly the Kanji characters seem like an impossible task.
alexklarjr
Am I right, full app cost is 500 dorrars?
russelg
Nice! Shame it's iOS only. I guess I could run it on my Macbook...
nosefrog
Cool! Does anyone know of apps similar to this for Chinese?
killa_kyle
Checking it out!
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